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mods/volunteers/tagging system

so there have been several great suggestions about what to do with the backlog and tagging issues, so i thought i'd throw up a quick poll, so the mods that take over can see the preferred method to deal with that.

Poll #1978546 tagging

which platform to you want to see the tagging system moved to?

GDocs Spreadsheet
33(52.4%)
Pinboard
20(31.7%)
Old Delicious
2(3.2%)
New Delicious
8(12.7%)


please vote!

now there are several people willing to become mods and help out with the tagging system for the prompts.

the current mod team is still cashay, enochia, evil_little_dog, simplyn2deep, theeverdream, and zelda_addict. mods, i'd like to hear from you and if you'd still be interested in being a mod, if you didn't comment on the previous post. thanks!

simplyn2deep is willing to take over my place as owner. ideally, i think two-three head mods would be awesome, so if one or two can't take care of modly duties for RL reasons or whatever, there's always someone else to depend on. then the modding team.

evil_little_dog is still willing to be a mod.

classics_lover has offered to be a co-mod.

angelus2hot has expressed interest in being a mod.
lanalucy has offered to set up a gdoc spreadsheet for the unfilled/filled prompts if that's the way the comm goes.
zippitgood offered to help maintain the gdoc spreadsheet.
gehayi seems willing to help with gdocs as well.
yuidirnt has offered to create a new delicious account for the prompts.
matrixrefugee has offered to help with a new delicious.
lynne_monstr has offered to help index prompts on whatever platform they end up on.
zelda_addict is willing to help index prompts.
raktajinos is willing to help index prompts.
samueljames has offered to buy the comm a pinboard account for the prompts.

i would still being willing to help index prompts too. modding is just way too much for me, but indexing a section of prompts is much more manageable for me right now.

another user suggested moving from daily themes to weekly themes, so here's another poll about that.

should we keep the daily themes or move to weekly themes?

daily
50(75.8%)
weekly
16(24.2%)


i'm trying to get everything organized as much as possible before the next modding team takes over, so mods, if you haven't responded, i'd really like to know if you want to stay a mod or not. thanks!

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afullmargin
Aug. 12th, 2014 05:52 pm (UTC)
Still personally leaning toward GDocs, but it's a platform I'm familiar and comfortable with. I'm also willing to help index regardless of the platform it ends up on, but will have to learn anything else.

As far as daily/weekly - I like the daily format but I chose weekly because I think given the state of LJ it might be a little more realistic for everyone - I know that personally I've missed *many* themes I wanted to submit for but couldn't because by the time I could get to it the next day's was running.
simplyn2deep
Aug. 12th, 2014 05:57 pm (UTC)
I still stand by my offer of being owner. I'm homebound for the foreseeable future and have the time.

For those who voted for weekly themes, how would this be set up? A different person every week to "guest host" or 1 person for the whole month who puts up a new theme once a week?

Also, something that I didn't think about yesterday, but that just came to me, is limiting how far in advance we give out hosting weeks. I think by doing this, it will limit the number of times we have to go to pinch hitters because the person I contacted never got back to me (and not all do despite me asking them to let me know they've received my reminder message).
yuidirnt
Aug. 12th, 2014 05:59 pm (UTC)
Pinboard would be the perfect choice for archiving prompts and fills in my opinion, it has a simple layout and the tagging system is way easier to navigate through than that of delicious.

If that fails, my offer to create a new delicious account from scratch still stands.
matrixrefugee
Aug. 12th, 2014 06:03 pm (UTC)
Seconded on Pinboard: "fic_promptly" over on Dreamwidth uses it and it's crazy-easy to use, I love it!
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yuidirnt
Aug. 12th, 2014 06:03 pm (UTC)
Oh, and random suggestion: if we keep daily themes, how about dedicating a whole week every x weeks/months to just filling lonely prompts? There used to be something similar but the last time was in 2010.
simplyn2deep
Aug. 12th, 2014 06:27 pm (UTC)
I like the idea of doing a whole week of filling lonely prompts. Right now, Sunday is the day that's supposed to be set aside for lonely prompts, if my memory is correct.
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iantojjackh
Aug. 12th, 2014 07:04 pm (UTC)
I remember there being a problem with updating the old delicious stuff so I vote for new delicous as it's what I'm used to.

I picked weekly prompts because its hard to do every day, but weekly might be too long for some, how about new prompts twice a week?
badly_knitted
Aug. 12th, 2014 07:51 pm (UTC)
You read my mind! I was thinking twice weekly would be the happy medium, I often don't have time with the daily post to write something before the next dat's post appears.
badly_knitted
Aug. 12th, 2014 07:58 pm (UTC)
I voted weekly, but I'm with iantojjackh in thinking twice a week would be even better, kind of the middle ground. Either way, where would filling lonely promps fit in? At the moment, that's Sundays but if the community goes to once a week would there still be the Sunday post as well?

I have trouble navigating delicious, but I have no experience with GDocs, so I don't know if I would find that easier. I'm a technical dunce.
angelus2hot
Aug. 12th, 2014 08:04 pm (UTC)
I voted to keep daily prompts. With a lot of comms dying on livejournal I would be worried if this one went to weekly the same thing could happen.
tardisjournal
Aug. 13th, 2014 03:36 am (UTC)
This was my thought too. The daily prompts give me a reason to check the comm every day. Go to once a week and if there's a few of weeks in row with a theme I'm not interested in, I'm likely to lose interest and stop checking. And if I am, maybe others are too! There's already too much competition from other, flashier sites. Going to once a week might discourage activity, not encourage it.

That being said, maybe going to 2 or 3 times a week might be a good comprise between keeping the momentum going and giving people more time with a theme.
halfshellvenus
Aug. 12th, 2014 08:11 pm (UTC)
I voted for "daily" themes because, though I'm more distracted by Idol right now and don't check over here very often, if the theme is something like "Song quotes" or "weddings," I'm usually done without reading the prompts. I'd hate for that to be a whole week!

As to the dwindling participation... well, LJ is quieter than it once was, that's true. Mainly, if you have fewer live readers and prompters, then you get fewer fandoms/ideas suggested, which inspires fewer people to write. I'm probably not explaining that well, but the more people and fandoms, the more prompts and writers you attract. It's self-perpetuating or self-limiting, depending on how the cycle goes. So, more pimping of the comm, maybe?

And on the flip side, this comm has definitely gotten me writing fandoms I never thought I would, so that is bonus all around!
gehayi
Aug. 12th, 2014 09:18 pm (UTC)
I voted "daily," but I think that we need about a month's worth of filling lonely prompts. How about one week out of every month is dedicated to nothing but filling lonely prompts? That might cut down on the need for hosts and themes.

Oh, and we could cross-post to Tumblr and Twitter to direct people to the comm.

Edited at 2014-08-12 09:21 pm (UTC)
canonisrelative
Aug. 13th, 2014 01:47 am (UTC)
I second all of this! Once lonely prompts are easier to find and fill, especially!
classics_lover
Aug. 12th, 2014 10:57 pm (UTC)
I don't know enough about GDocs, Delicious and Pinboard (nearly typed Pinterest :P) so didn't vote on that one. Whatever everyone else is happy with, I'm happy with.

As for offering modding duties, just tell me what I need to do and I'll do it (even if that's just making the tea. I don't drink it, but apparently I make it well :P)
hematitebadger
Aug. 13th, 2014 12:29 am (UTC)
I haven't really used GDocs before, but I'm willing to learn if you need another set of hands. It's just filling out the fields with prompt information and adding links, yes?
katsuno_hitomi
Aug. 13th, 2014 04:49 am (UTC)
GDocs seem like the obvious choice for archiving purposes, though I'm willing to give a helping hand to whatever method we end up using. Been meaning to get more involved here, anyway.

Speaking of which, how are we going to tackle that daunting task? Like, how many will do it and how will it be divided up?
lanalucy
Aug. 14th, 2014 07:05 am (UTC)
I've offered to get it started. I'm kind of a perfectionist, and my dad just died, so I need something challenging to distract me and let me get my head back on straight. It's something I'd been meaning to do for my own use, anyway, so it's not all that much extra for me to just do all the prompts, rather than just the fandoms I want.
raktajinos
Aug. 13th, 2014 05:13 am (UTC)
I'm good with whatever tagging system we move to. I'm also able to help wherever is needed. Actually, a lot of what I do in RL is volunteer coordinating, so if you want/need someone to wrangle all the tagging volunteers, I'd love to help out there (in addition to organizing tags too)
scribble_myname
Aug. 13th, 2014 12:33 pm (UTC)
I voted daily because half the themes don't always work for me or it's all fandoms I don't know, so like others, I don't want to go a whole week with nothing that I feel like writing. On the other hand, I love going through the archives for more prompts and maybe we could do two or three days a week for lonely prompts, which could help, especially as old prompts still come out of the woodwork and onto our radar. Personally, I'd just prefer daily with a monthly lonely prompt week, but I'm flexible as long as prompts keep coming.
scribble_myname
Aug. 13th, 2014 12:35 pm (UTC)
Also, are we indexing fills? I'd be happy to help with that if it's on GDocs. Pinboard works only spottily on my computers and Delicious is a bear, but if we go with GDocs, I'd be happy to help index fills, as it seems we're covered on the prompts front.

I'd also be happy to crosspost fills to an AO3 collection as bookmarks. People could add their fics on AO3 to the collection's frontend if they're on AO3. Not sure who'd want that, but I know I'd love it.

Edited at 2014-08-13 12:38 pm (UTC)
samueljames
Aug. 13th, 2014 05:44 pm (UTC)
It's be great to have indexed fills in gdocs, especially if you come to a fandom late.

I, and some others for sure, crosspost to AO3 all the time but I'm not sure everyone would want that so I don't know how you'd keep track of who minded or didn't.
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